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Sleep Apnea Cured!

Postby gashish » Thu Aug 18, 2005 1:11 pm

Hi Everybody

I have been a regular to sleep apnea forums for a while now. I had severe sleep apnea until a month ago, and the reason I am writing this post is because I promised myself that if I ever get cured, I am going to spread the word to help others. Also, the treatment option I took, I could not find many resources online for it.

The beginning
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I am a 25 year old male. I had been a fairly good sleeper until I was 22 years old. (I have always been a snorer). After that, for no good reason, my sleep started getting worse. In 2 years, my condition progressively went downhill. I would wake up with tired dry eyes, go to work and fall asleep in important meetings. At one point in time, I slept for an hour at work everyday of the month. Sleeping on the job not only got me in trouble at work, but also started causing me pains in my neck because I would fall asleep in weird postures with my head literally hanging off my body. I would fall asleep watching TV, or studying or anything. My wife would have to sleep on the couch everyday because of my loud loud snoring. My mother finally forced me to get help. That's when I saw the doctor.

First Visit
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My mom had taken a 5 minute clip of my sleep on a video enabled cell phone. The minute she showed it to the doctor, he determined I had sleep apnea with 30+ second spells. He immediately sent me for a sleep study. He looked at the results and told me I needed a CPAP machine with pressures north of 15. I tried the CPAP, my sleep quality increased marginally however it was not comfortable at all, and I do not mean uncomfortable as in how it is for most people. I simply had a hard time breathing even with the CPAP. The air just wouldn't go in or come out of my mouth like it was supposed to.

Second opinion
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After the lack of success with the CPAP, I went and consulted an ENT. He looked inside my mouth and said I had very large tonsils. Also, my septum (bone in the nose) was a little bent and was causing obstruction in my breathing. He immediately scheduled tonsillectomy and adenoidectomy procedures for me for the coming fortnight. He said what I might have is upper airway obstruction which might be causing sleep apnea. He said this might or might not cure the problem, but he believes there is a good chance that it's the tonsils that are blocking my airway and not letting air in and out of my mouth like it is supposed to. I was desperate and willing to try anything.

The surgery
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The doctor took my tonsils and adenoids out, but did not to anything to straighten my septum. He said instead of using a "shotgun approach" where you do everything and if the problem gets fixed, you do not even know what caused it, he is going to do a tonsillectomy and adenoidectomy and see the results. My tonsils were the size of a ping pong ball each! Imagine breathing with 2 ping pong balls in your mouth. Also my adenoids were medium sized, which is big in my opinion because they usually disappear by the time teen ages end. The surgery was a 40 minute procedure.

Post Surgery/Cured!
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The night before my surgery was the last apnea night of my life, and I didn't even know it then. The surgery went well, even though I hurt. But from the first night on, I could tell a difference. I could finally breathe! I still snored a little but that was attributed to my swollen Uvula. I slept like a baby after that.

Changes
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Here is a list of things that changed, from before and after my surgery. Yes, I am suggesting that sleep apnea causes these and the treatment should take care of these.

1. No more daytime sleeping or drowsiness! (Even when I get only 3 hours of sleep at night)
2. No more apnea spells.
3. Whole lot of energy all day.
4. No more getting up in the middle of the night to pee.
5. Less tired body and eyes, more concentration.
6. No more neck problems.

Finally.....
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The reason I wrote this was because I got cured and nowhere on the net could I find a definite answer or case study where any adult got help from Tonsillectomy and adenoidectomy.There is tons of websites about apnea in kids getting treated with Tonsillectomy and adenoidectomy but most sites say that it is ineffective/less effective in adults. Tonsillectomy and adenoidectomy was my cure. I am not saying that this will work for everybody, but you must take in account that the CPAP is not the only cure. My first doctor, a respiratory specialist told me that my tonsils have nothing to do with my apnea. THE DOCTOR WAS 100% WRONG. Sleep apnea is not an abnormality of any organ, it's an obstruction, but left uncured it can cause abnormalities in various organs which can lead to fatal results. Good luck and may God be with you.

Here is my email address. If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to email me. It is my desire as well as my burden to help others. I promise to reply. gupta@nc.rr.com


Here is a before after pic of my tonsils
http://sleepapnea100.blogspot.com/
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Postby merlin » Thu Aug 18, 2005 2:11 pm

I am very happy that the surgery cured your apnea; however that is not always the cause of all cases of sleep apnea. I had my tonsils and adenoids removed when I was 13 years old. I developed sleep apnea when I was 43.
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Postby lynn543 » Thu Aug 18, 2005 3:45 pm

I would have hoped any sleep disorders doc would check for enlarged tonsils, etc on the first visit, seems to have been negligence
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Postby Mike » Thu Aug 18, 2005 5:20 pm

I am happy to hear that you are doing better. Unfortunately your situation is not the norm as most folks aren't "cured". Please check back in with us from time to time, will be interested in hearing how well you do over time. (not to get you paranoid, but there have been a lot of folks getting surgery, declaring themselves cured only to find OSA coming back after 6 months or longer. I sincerely hope that is not the case for you, and if it isn't be very thankful that the simple procedure took care of your problem.)

I personally had tonsils and adnoids removed as a child, and I still have sleep apnea... :-(
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Postby colleentalb » Thu Aug 18, 2005 5:34 pm

Gashish!

I just made the decision to get my tonsils removed in the hopes that it will reduce my CPAP pressure which is at 16 right now! I took a look at your blog and my tonsils are about that big, too! Ping pong balls, eh? I had no idea I could fit ping pong balls in my mouth. :-) I've also been having a lot of trouble with allergies, which I hope the tonsillectomy will clear up a little as well. I will keep in mind your information about the septum, but I don't think that will apply. Thanks for the information and I hope I have as much luck as you! I won't hold my breath for a cure, but your success is definitely encouraging.

Thanks!
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Postby L.ANDERS » Thu Aug 18, 2005 9:47 pm

This is the first time I've been to this site and I am glad to find some one who has been able to overcome apnea without the cpap. However when I was 20 I was diagnosed with sleep apnea after countless tests and advised to have surgery. I cant remember the medical term for the surgery but they removed my tonsils and adenoids, broke and reset my septum and removed my uvula and half the palet (sorry if i didn't spell everything right). After the stitches healed and the two feet of gauze was removed from each nostril my apnea had infact improved. I no longer had the window rattling snore I had grown up with but I still snore. It is more of a wheezing sound than a snort now. About four months later I had another sleep study and was fitted for my first cpap. I am now 26 and depend nightly on my cpap I cannot function through the day with out it. The machine is set at 12 to 14 and Im sure it would be more if not for the surgery. I have been consulted on every thing from shrinking the back part of my toung with eletric shocks to moving my chin forward by sawing thru my jaw and reatatching with metal plates. After my previous surgery I am hesitant to pursue any more remedies than the cpap.

I am happy to know that having your tonsils removed helped you and am not writing to scare anyone off from that treatment because it did help me some. I would also like to see some posts from any one who has tried any other treatments. I think like everyone I would love to find some way to do away with the cpap machine, but I am a little gun shy about any more surgeries that "might" help.
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Postby sleepymom » Sat Aug 27, 2005 4:31 pm

Well I am glad it cured you. I do hope though that everyone FULLY considers their options/risks before considering surgery as a cure. I went to an ENT also and was immediately scheduled for septoplasty (to correct deviated septum) and a tonsillectomy. Unfortunately the tonsillectomy was never able to be done because I had a HEART ATTACK during the septoplasty. I also have a large hole in my septum due to the septoplasty. Please consider all your options and never consider surgery as an absolute. It is very risky.
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Postby cornpop16 » Sat Aug 27, 2005 8:28 pm

Hey I am schedualed for a tonsillectomy and a septoplasty surgery for January. I hope I have ok results with mine, I would even love for my sleep apnea to drop from severe to moderete!
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Postby Amigo » Wed Aug 31, 2005 1:30 pm

I, too, am happy that you've had some relief of your symptoms, however, please do check back with us in another six months.

CPAP may be a pain in the a**, but it has a much higher long-term success rate than T & A (no, not THAT T & A...lol).

My tonsils and adenoids were removed as a child at a time when it was "the thing to do" when a child had repeated ear and throat infections. It certainly did not prevent me from developing sleep apnea, and that seems to be the case with many in this forum.

It is yet another reason why I recommend seeing a Pulmonary specialist rather than an ENT. As far as I'm concerned, surgery should absolutely be the last resort in treating this problem not the first.

In any case, my best wishes for you.
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Re: Sleep Apnea Cured!

Postby LisaCottrell » Sat Jan 19, 2013 10:16 am

Thanks for sharing this. I am new to this issue. I snore, have allergies and apparently have <88% oxygen for up to 20 minutes a night. I have not yet had the full sleep study, just the 3 night pulse oxymetry test. My physician did not even look in my ear, nose or throat, though I have been to an ENT before for chronic allergies (discovered dust mite allergy.) I am supposed to have the full sleep study soon, but I really don't want a C-PAP if I can help it. My father had terrible sleep apnea and narcolepsy. His C-PAP increased his blood pressure drastically (according to my sister) and he was very fit. I appreciate the heads up. I suspect I have obstructive type. I have a history of TMJ disorder, too, but it has gone away as I have eliminated stressors.
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Re: Sleep Apnea Cured!

Postby Daniel » Sat Jan 19, 2013 11:14 am

LisaCottrell wrote:Thanks for sharing this. I am new to this issue. I snore, have allergies and apparently have <88% oxygen for up to 20 minutes a night. I have not yet had the full sleep study, just the 3 night pulse oxymetry test. My physician did not even look in my ear, nose or throat, though I have been to an ENT before for chronic allergies (discovered dust mite allergy.) I am supposed to have the full sleep study soon, but I really don't want a C-PAP if I can help it. My father had terrible sleep apnea and narcolepsy. His C-PAP increased his blood pressure drastically (according to my sister) and he was very fit. I appreciate the heads up. I suspect I have obstructive type. I have a history of TMJ disorder, too, but it has gone away as I have eliminated stressors.
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The thread you have responded to is almost 8 years old !!!
Contents are probably irrelevant now, in view of the time lapse and the changes and improvements in treatment therapy.

In view of your low SAO2 levels, and your family's history it is very important that you follow this through with a sleep study.

Best of luck.

Daniel.
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