SleepDepravity wrote -
sleepdeprivation wrote:@Lightheaded- Ok, I'm still severely sleep deprived and going through early menopause at 29 so excuse my stupidity- I can't even tell if you are a serious poster- LOL!
Something you said made so much sense to me. You mentioned that antidepressants help improve cognitive functioning. Did they help your cognitive function due to sleep deprivation? In what way?
But recently, I discovered that disorganized thoughts are also a symptom of sleep deprivation. So I thought maybe antidepressants do something besides helping depression or anxiety. Maybe they affect cognitive function as well. And then you mentioned it as well!
Well, SD, at first I thought your post was from WorriedGirlFriend and confusion went from high to stratospheric - I had to take or 8 anti-depressants to get my thinking back on the ground. Kidding - what did you expect - I really am not SERIOUS about anything much less posting but that's a Zen thing.
Anyway - the alarm bells in my head were so damn distracting I had to re-read the phrase "early menopause at 29" about 3.5 times. Hello - do we have an endocrinologist in the house? SD, I do know a bit about sleep deprivation and hormones but mostly my own flavor. That said, the pituitary does pretty much the same thing in most human varieties and it, the pituitary, is seriously (and negatively) affected by sleep deprivation. Fixing the sleep may
help the m'pause. Paradoxically, fixing the hormones might help the sleep. Damn stuff is all entangled. Anyway, here's my take on drugs in general, anti-depressants in particular:
- depression is a catch-all phrase that describes a wildly variable set of symptoms. Eat too much - depressed. Eat too little depressed, sleep too much/too little - depressed. There is no specific
that can be called depression. Just symptoms. Thinking more clearly can help - so a-d drugs may just help cognition and, voila, depression fades. Amazing.
- most psychoactive recreational drugs work just fine as anti--depressants. For a little while. The ones that are Rx-ed for cognitive functions can be found on any list of drugs for ADHD. I'd stay away from the amphetamines. I've got a scrip for ritalin and it works, sort of --- but stims are really only short term patches. And, if a patch is what you need, then a patch is what you need. No sense running flat - just destroys thing. Mood brightening is another key phrase. And ... ALL DRUGS WEAR OUT SOONER OR LATER.
- anyway - first things first - if you
are serious about helping yourself, and you'd be amazed how many aren't, then you've got to do all the basics as best you can. Eat right, exercise right, get as lean and mean as you can. Of course, the problem is that severe sleep deprivation can seriously interfere with abilities in both those areas (and about 73 other areas). IMHO it's the commitment, your commitment, that carries the magic. OK - so, let's assume you're committed - you've also got to get straight with whatever hormone altering drugs you're already taking; e.g. any and all birth control meds etc.
- still here? OK - google search term: "nootropic". You'll see why.
- rx? my favorite starters are selegiline and amantadine. The a'dine is generally safe, has been used with traumatic brain injury (anything that helps TBI can/will help slp depriv). The selegiline taken straight requires dietary care (no chianti, no aged cheeses, etc. because of tyramine effect - i.e. it can kill you); there is a trans-dermal patch that's very, very low risk and I've developed a few personal trix over the years but that's another story. OK, I confess, I'm a selegiline fan - just love the stuff. It actually promotes the growth of neurons, has positive endocrine effects (hold me back boys I want to do more than dance ...) and actually extends the life span of lab rats (and makes old male rats really randy - grinning out loud)
- anything that promotes slow wave sleep can be helpful. This includes trazodone which is also an anti-anxiety style anti-depressant. SWS is when human growth hormone (HGH) is produced. If you've got a good endocrinologist you can have it measured and maybe get a shot.
- did I mention exercise? IMHO the best exercise for stimulating HGH production is leg presses to the point where you can only do 1 lift at a given weight; i.e. near exhaustion. Got that tip from The Arnold. It means putting a lot of weight on the machine - a lot. Start at 3x body weight and work up to 5x body weight. Note: just standing up is 1 body weight. Standing on 1 foot is 2 body weights - so 3 is sort of like jumping an inch or two off the ground. If this is a problem.... well, nobody said life was fair.
- benzos are bad; no xanax, valium, etc. etc. Effexor, wellbutrin, and a few others have an interesting kick --- and IMHO don't plan on a long affair with any of them; just enough to get you on track. But, what the heck do I know I haven't taken them all yet.
ENUF --- tomorrow is a Cougar Day I just know it. Tracking mountain lions at 10,000' - I love it.
.. p.s. to fellow MachoRats out there -- I regularly do between 5 & 7 x body weight and my lifetime max (but only once) is 1700+ pounds (LOL - but mostly at my smartassSelf).