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Passed out while sleeping

Postby Barbara » Thu Mar 09, 2006 1:30 pm

Ok, first off I was diagnosed with Neurocardiogenic Syncope a few years ago. I have passed out all my life and often get dizzy. I'm always tired.

But my question is, is it possible to pass out during your sleep? Yesterday while taking a nap, I believe I passed out. It startled me and I woke up, but I tried opening my eyes, but I couldn't. It was as if my eyes were having seizures, I could open my eyes slightly though.
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Postby sleepyjean » Thu Mar 09, 2006 6:32 pm

Hi Barbara. From what I understand it is not possible to "pass out" while you are lying down. However, the feeling of not being able to move, i.e., open your eyes is a symptom of a sleep problem. I'm not sure what problem, but one of the questions that my sleep doctor asked my during my inital visit was if I ever woke up feeling unable to move. I would suggest that you call your doctor and at least make him aware of what's going on.

Good luck.

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passed out while sleeping

Postby snoopy06 » Thu Mar 09, 2006 7:07 pm

I'm in no position to give any kind of firm answer, but there is such a thing as narcolepsy, needing to fall asleep at same time every day whether you're in a meeting or walking on stairs, and cataplexy, which is the feeling of not being able to move while half asleep/half awake. They have nothing to do with using an apnea device. They are sleep issues on their own. Does anyone know if using apnea machine helps regulate these? I do know cataplexy can feel very frightening, according to someone I know who had it a while. She was awake/believed she was awake, but wasn't able to move any part of her body. But I don't think the machine could bring these on. I'll be interested in what others have to say. In meantime you might try typing cataplexy in as a search topic, or google it to read more about it. Hope this is basicly correct information and I haven't steered you wrong. Good luck. Snoopy06
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Postby Barbara » Fri Mar 10, 2006 12:27 am

Thanks for the replies. I was told by a friend that it could've been sleep apnea, and that maybe I was holding my breath and it caused me to pass out. I don't know much about sleep apnea but I thought I would ask here just to see what you had to say. I didn't want to ask my doctor because then I'd be signing my name to a bunch of tests lol, and quite frankly I don't have the money for that right now.

I say it was passing out because it's that same feeling I always get when I'm passing out, like my stomach and mind has just been flipped and I'm falling down a tunnel. But it's weird cause it startled me and I woke up, but I couldn't open my eyes. All I could do was just see a slight bit of light but I could feel my eyelids going crazy. After about 10-15 seconds I was fine and I could open my eyes. During the whole thing I was thinking, what is going on with me? You'd think that my mind wouldn't be thinking like that or whatever. It was just an odd experience. I know I often feel like I'm falling and I startle myself and wake up, but it's never been like this. I felt like I was passing out and the eye thing kinda freaked me out a bit too.

As for narcolepsy, I don't know. I'm tired throughout the day but I've never been close to falling alseep. If I'm tired I take a nap or go to bed...but then again I can never seem to get enough sleep. Doctors say that my disorder can be tiresome on the body, so that maybe the reason for me being tired all the time.

Anyways, thanks for the replies. If anyone else has any input I'd be glad to hear it. Thank you.
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passing out while sleeping/can't move

Postby Cindi » Fri Mar 10, 2006 4:11 pm

I tried my c-pap machine for the first time last night. I had the weirdest experience of feeling like I was passing out and I could not move for a few seconds. I thought I was imagining this until I got online today. I am so scared. Do not know what to do. Should I talk with the Doctor or is this somewhat normal?
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Re: passed out while sleeping

Postby NightHawk777 » Fri Mar 10, 2006 4:36 pm

snoopy06 wrote:I'm in no position to give any kind of firm answer, but there is such a thing as narcolepsy, needing to fall asleep at same time every day whether you're in a meeting or walking on stairs, and cataplexy, which is the feeling of not being able to move while half asleep/half awake. They have nothing to do with using an apnea device. They are sleep issues on their own. Does anyone know if using apnea machine helps regulate these? I do know cataplexy can feel very frightening, according to someone I know who had it a while. She was awake/believed she was awake, but wasn't able to move any part of her body. But I don't think the machine could bring these on. I'll be interested in what others have to say. In meantime you might try typing cataplexy in as a search topic, or google it to read more about it. Hope this is basicly correct information and I haven't steered you wrong. Good luck. Snoopy06


Oh i had that happen to me once many years ago, i couldn't move for about 2 hours.
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Re: Passed out while sleeping

Postby Dominus Sinistrae » Fri Mar 10, 2006 8:28 pm

Barbara wrote:Ok, first off I was diagnosed with Neurocardiogenic Syncope a few years ago. I have passed out all my life and often get dizzy. I'm always tired.

But my question is, is it possible to pass out during your sleep? Yesterday while taking a nap, I believe I passed out. It startled me and I woke up, but I tried opening my eyes, but I couldn't. It was as if my eyes were having seizures, I could open my eyes slightly though.


Of course, I am not a doctor but this sounds to me like sleep paralysis. I don't think sleep paralysis is dangerous but I've heard it can be terrifying. But of course you should tell your doctor about it and let the professional’s diagnosis you. Let us know what he/she says!

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Re: Passed out while sleeping

Postby Guest » Sat Mar 11, 2006 12:02 pm

Dominus Sinistrae wrote:
Barbara wrote:Ok, first off I was diagnosed with Neurocardiogenic Syncope a few years ago. I have passed out all my life and often get dizzy. I'm always tired.

But my question is, is it possible to pass out during your sleep? Yesterday while taking a nap, I believe I passed out. It startled me and I woke up, but I tried opening my eyes, but I couldn't. It was as if my eyes were having seizures, I could open my eyes slightly though.


Of course, I am not a doctor but this sounds to me like sleep paralysis. I don't think sleep paralysis is dangerous but I've heard it can be terrifying. But of course you should tell your doctor about it and let the professional’s diagnosis you. Let us know what he/she says!

DS


I looked into that. And I did have another weird experience about 6 months ago that would fit into this category. I didn't think anything of it, cause I didn't have anything in my dream that could be hazardous to my health. However, it was another very realistic experience (although I thought the one I had the other day was real, and it could still be...but if it's sleep paralysis that would explain)...anyways about 6 months ago I was living in the dorms and I dozed off for a nap. My roommate and her boyfriend were studying.

Now this whole time I'm dreaming I think I'm awake. I'm still laying on my bed laying down and they're studying government. They were stuck on an answer so I told them an answer...they were ignoring me as if they hadn't heard me and I was getting frustrated and so mad that I could feel my heart race and my face start to get hot. Then minutes later I started to gradually slide off of my bed and I could feel myself rubbing against the blanket and getting tangled in it and then I could feel my back hit the wooden board on the side of the bed and then my head hit first and then my back and bottom hit last and that really hurt. Once that hit I woke up in a panic gasping for air and I sat up with my hands grabbing out for dear life.

My roommate and her boyfriend just looked at me as if I were crazy and I was in my bed...not on the floor, and they were no longer stuyding governement - they were doing two seperate things on different sides of the room.

I always consider this my weirdest dream. It's weird cause I sensed I was awake and in the dream I had no control over helping myself get back into the bed when I was falling. But what really gets me about the dream is the physical pain and the strong emotions.
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Postby Barbara » Sat Mar 11, 2006 12:03 pm

Sorry that last post was by me, Barbara.
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Postby Sunfish » Sat Mar 11, 2006 1:45 pm

It IS in fact possible to pass out/faint while laying down...but it is very unusual. It would only occur with extreme bradycardia (low heart rate) and/or extreme hypotension (low blood pressure) and honestly it doesn't sound like what you are describing. If you had been laying down and had an extreme shock or pain or something else that might have triggered a vagal response - similar to the neurocardiogenic syncope etiology - then perhaps it would make sense. But unless you were already in a precarious spot with your heart rate and/or blood pressure the occurance during sleep doesn't really fit.
Explanations offered by others make a lot more sense to me,
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Postby Guest » Sat Mar 11, 2006 3:19 pm

Sunfish wrote:It IS in fact possible to pass out/faint while laying down...but it is very unusual. It would only occur with extreme bradycardia (low heart rate) and/or extreme hypotension (low blood pressure) and honestly it doesn't sound like what you are describing. If you had been laying down and had an extreme shock or pain or something else that might have triggered a vagal response - similar to the neurocardiogenic syncope etiology - then perhaps it would make sense. But unless you were already in a precarious spot with your heart rate and/or blood pressure the occurance during sleep doesn't really fit.
Explanations offered by others make a lot more sense to me,
8-) melissa


Well, along with Neurocardiogenic Syncope, a lot of people such as myself, suffer from cardiac arrythmia. So in my case my heart rate will be just fine then it will jump up to a racing rate and drop immediately back to normal (or if I pass out, it will drop even lower). When I was sleeping I was on my stomach with my arms bent underneath my chest like they usually are.
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Postby Sunfish » Sat Mar 11, 2006 3:39 pm

yes...i know the mechanisms of NCS and the often accompanied arrythmias well. (i have ncs as well as other generalized autonomic failure & have been involved for years with research, non-profits, & support groups for dysautonomias). i was just trying to articulate that your description of what happened while sleeping/laying down doesn't fit with anything i've heard or read in regard to this.

i can entirely relate to your description of heart rate variations (normal, then very high, then dropping, etc.) but the reality is that the drop would have to be MUCH more extreme to induce syncope while laying down. and this is VERY unusual without some other factor that i mentioned above (pain, shock of physical or emotional nature, concommitent illness, etc). you did however mention the possibility of having been holding your breath and this is something known to trigger a vasovagal response in some with NCS or other autonomic disorders; in fact it is (in a more controlled way of course) used in autonomic testing labs.

you can certainly feel unwell due to changes in HR and/or BP without actually blacking out but the same heart rate changes that would bring on syncope while standing (or even sitting) would not do the same while already laying down.
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