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Cleaning and sanitizing C-Pap & Bi-Pap mask/hose-How to

Postby keano » Tue Jan 27, 2009 9:42 pm

I would like to try a better cleaning process on my Bi-Pap's mask, hose and humidifier reservoir than the mild soap and tap water that I am using every other morning. Plus, I would like to use a sanitizer/germicide that would not leave any toxic residue behind. "Google" results are mostly limited to cleaning agents and a suggestion for a 1-to-4 ratio of vinegar/water mix for soaking. The best option appeared to be at "QuickMedical web site" that sells a Salon and Spa Pedicure Sanitation Kit that is a spray cleaning gel and a germicidal concentrate---BUT is it safe to use on my mask/hose/reservior and then my breathing through afterwards??? No response from my inquiry to their web site as yet. Any ideas?
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Re: Cleaning and sanitizing C-Pap & Bi-Pap mask/hose-How

Postby Daniel » Wed Jan 28, 2009 4:48 am

keano wrote:I would like to try a better cleaning process on my Bi-Pap's mask, hose and humidifier reservoir than the mild soap and tap water that I am using every other morning. Plus, I would like to use a sanitizer/germicide that would not leave any toxic residue behind. "Google" results are mostly limited to cleaning agents and a suggestion for a 1-to-4 ratio of vinegar/water mix for soaking. The best option appeared to be at "QuickMedical web site" that sells a Salon and Spa Pedicure Sanitation Kit that is a spray cleaning gel and a germicidal concentrate---BUT is it safe to use on my mask/hose/reservior and then my breathing through afterwards??? No response from my inquiry to their web site as yet. Any ideas?


A better cleaning process ?? What can possibly be better than the manufacturers recommendations/instructions...........which is mild soap and luke warm water.

This type of question comes up from time to time, but the very best advice is to stick with the manufacturers recommendations.

There are numerous different suggestions, compounds, cleaners etc., BUT they are not recommended by the manufacturer. They might react with the component parts of your equipment (of which there are many), and I am pretty sure that they will degrade your mask and shorten its effectiveness and lifespan.

Toxic residue ? I don't believe there is any. It is a closed breathing circuit that only you use. Unless you are adding anything toxic, there should be no problems.

Best of luck.

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Thanks for the suggestion on cleaning mask/hose/resevoir

Postby keano » Wed Jan 28, 2009 11:31 am

Thanks for the suggestion to follow manufacturer's recommended cleaning techniques of good old soap and water on my bi-pap's mask, hose and humidifier reservoir. It makes good sense, especially when considering doing damage with other cleaning agents to the soft-formed plastic that helps seal the mask.

However, skipping the request for a better/different cleaning agent, I still consider the occasional use of a sanitizer/germicide to be important since it does far more than soap can do in getting rid of germs, et cetera. Hygiene info I've read talks about germs remaining on surfaces for up to two weeks. We're not tossing away used Kleenix tissues in this case. We are re-exposing ourselves to some of our lovely nasal and mouth germs more than we need to if there is an acceptable sanitizing/germicidal agent available. "It's only our very own germs" is a moot point since we can re-infect ourselves time and again with one problematic germ type, even if there are thousands and thousands of tolerable germs there too.

"Google" some of the key words, especially in conjunction with hospitals, and I hope you will see some value in the second half of my inquiry that still seeks some type of sanitizing/germicide agent that will not damage our equipment, nor leave a toxic residue that we would breath. Thank you.
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Re: Thanks for the suggestion on cleaning mask/hose/resevoir

Postby Daniel » Wed Jan 28, 2009 1:54 pm

keano wrote:Thanks for the suggestion to follow manufacturer's recommended cleaning techniques of good old soap and water on my bi-pap's mask, hose and humidifier reservoir. It makes good sense, especially when considering doing damage with other cleaning agents to the soft-formed plastic that helps seal the mask.

However, skipping the request for a better/different cleaning agent, I still consider the occasional use of a sanitizer/germicide to be important since it does far more than soap can do in getting rid of germs, et cetera. Hygiene info I've read talks about germs remaining on surfaces for up to two weeks. We're not tossing away used Kleenix tissues in this case. We are re-exposing ourselves to some of our lovely nasal and mouth germs more than we need to if there is an acceptable sanitizing/germicidal agent available. "It's only our very own germs" is a moot point since we can re-infect ourselves time and again with one problematic germ type, even if there are thousands and thousands of tolerable germs there too.

"Google" some of the key words, especially in conjunction with hospitals, and I hope you will see some value in the second half of my inquiry that still seeks some type of sanitizing/germicide agent that will not damage our equipment, nor leave a toxic residue that we would breath. Thank you.


Maybe we can 'reinfect' ourselves with our own germs............but if they are OUR germs, and we have managed to live with them..........how can 'reinfecting' ourselves do any harm. Toxic residue......from what ?

I have been using CPAP for 15 years now, I don't maintain a rigorous cleaning regime............during this period I have taken various types of medications, I administered chemo type medication to another party. I have travelled through most continents and camped out in the bush, trekked through rain forest.........and used CPAP without any problems or rashes etc.

It is a good idea to be keen on keeping your equipment clean............but warm soapy water is more than adequate.

If you really want to follow up on this, the best people to contact are the manufacturers of your equipment (not the DME). Looking for third party, unrecommended, cleaners can be dangerous for you and your equipment AND can nullify your warranty.

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Postby HappyCat » Wed Jan 28, 2009 2:13 pm

I would like to add that over-zealous sanitizing (use of antiseptic soaps and cleansers in the home) is also contributing to the creation of resistant germs. Linda or Vicki was on a rant about this the other day on another post, but she is absolutely correct. If you kill a germ that came FROM you, and then re-introduce the germ TO yourself, you are setting up the perfect scenario for that germ to become resistant.
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Postby 4cats4me » Wed Jan 28, 2009 6:14 pm

Hi Daniel and Happy Cat!! I agree with you guys!! I don't maintain a rigorous cleaning regime either but I do clean things when I feel the need to with only liquid soap and hot water. Drip dry. Never have used vinegar solutions or any citrus wipes----- I have not had ONE cold yet and been on CPAP a year and a half. I figure that if we clean things too good--then our bodies won't fight off any germs once they see some!! LOL! I hope this helps,
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Postby TerriG1221 » Wed Jan 28, 2009 7:35 pm

I was using bar soap until the DME told me
to be sure I used NO ALCOHOL and some bar
soaps have alcohol. He suggested baby shampoo,
which I now use.

He said I don't need the vinegar, but the manufacturer
says yes. He says I'm the only one using the machine,
so I don't need the vinegar.
So far, I haven't used the vinegar.
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Cleaning-Sanitizing bi-pap components

Postby keano » Wed Jan 28, 2009 9:19 pm

You've talked me into the soap and water procedure as being sufficient, especially since I'm just starting on the machine and will defer to those with greater experience.
I guess I was overreacting based on previous work in institutional settings where we blasted everything with "quad spray," a combination of four sanitizing agents.
I still don't agree that we are over-santizing or over-cleaning, in spite of germs becoming resistance in some cases, at some times, as "an across the board" or "in all cases" premise, since I've come across some very grimy people and places over the years where basic hygiene was and probably continues to be sorely lacking.
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