Can't sleep more than 3 hours

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Can't sleep more than 3 hours

Postby duffer54 » Fri Jun 29, 2012 3:43 pm

I am a new CPAP user, I can't sleep more than 3 hours at a time. Going to sleep with my Quatro FX full face mask is OK but, I wake up within 3 hours like an alarm clock is inside me. I tried Advil PM, not a noticeable improvement.
My setting is 10.0. no Bi-Pap. It is hard to wear the mask after waking up. Any suggestions?
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Re: Can't sleep more than 3 hours

Postby greatunclebill » Fri Jun 29, 2012 4:15 pm

as silly as it souds, roll over and go back to sleep. you will go back to sleep and if you don't, lay there and fake it all night. you will eventually sleep. do not get in the habit of pulling the mask off and going back to sleep without it. you undo all the help you gave yourself for the first 3 hours. eventually you will just sleep without it. you'll get the hang of it. as much as people think they lay there and don't sleep, they do sleep. most people don't think they slept at all during the sleep study and are surprised when told how long they slept. don't be afraid to use your ramp or set your ramp longer. sleep aids are not a good idea.
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Re: Can't sleep more than 3 hours

Postby duffer54 » Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:21 pm

Thanks for the advice
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Re: Can't sleep more than 3 hours

Postby robysue » Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:25 pm

[quote="duffer54"It is hard to wear the mask after waking up. Any suggestions?[/quote]If you've tried greatunclebill's sound advice of "just turn over and try to get back to sleep", but you find yourself getting more alert and more conscious of the mask and less likely to be able to get back to sleep, then it is time to take the mask off, get out of bed, go into a different room and do something to calm yourself down until you are ready to mask up again and try,try again to go back to sleep.
current settings Min EPAP = 4, Max IPAP = 8 and Rise time = 3

8/1/2010 sleep study results:
AHI = 3.9 [AHI = (#OA +#CA + #H w/desat) per hour]
RDI = 23.4 [RDI = (#OA +CA + #H w/desat + #H w/arousal) per hour]
Dx: Moderate OSA
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Re: Can't sleep more than 3 hours

Postby Resty » Sat Jun 30, 2012 3:44 am

I started BiPap a year ago. I have horrible SDB and UARS or whatever name they wanna call it this week. No one will say THE WORDS---SLEEP APNEA. But they do tell me my O2 sats drop into the 50s when I sleep...seldom higher than the high 70s. I havent slept good in at least 10 years. My AHI was ...according to my sleep specialist was "well over 100". I had constant morning headaches. I did not snore or seem to struggle to breathe in the night. I also seldom slept over 90 minutes at a time. I would doze during the day sitting at my desk. I KNEW I was sick.....I KNEW something was wrong and I was terrified of what it could be

Fast forward.....I faithfully sleep with the BiPap (affectionately called Bubba...I figure if I gotta sleep with it every night forever it needs a name LOL) I do not sleep without it. I use a Quatrro FX or a Mirage Quatrro face mask. I use a cold air humidifier (I know there's another name for it but it escapes me right now) I still dont sleep more than a couple hours....if I get 4 consecutive hours of sleep i consider myself blessed. What I do sleep is better just never very long. I dont and wont use sleep meds.

Ive tried laying in bed til I go back to sleep but I have severe back issues that wont allow that. Just keep trying,.,.,.,.,.dont give up trying.

Good Luck

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Re: Can't sleep more than 3 hours

Postby kevinsmith » Mon Jul 02, 2012 5:55 am

Simple - use your body the way it's built. Hide clocks behind a book; keep caffeine use to early to mid morning; rest before sleep, and avoid late night alcohol. Quitting smoking is much tougher, but sometimes knowing what tobacco does to sleep gives that last necessary incentive to stop the expensive weed.
Fortunately sleep is a part of rest that's all about conditioning - the little behaviors that make falling asleep restful and fun, as sleep reworks and rewires your brain. Even 20-30 minutes of walking leads to new brain cell growth at night.
Remember that acorn on the forest floor? That acorn can generate a grand oak tree. That power of regeneration is what rest does for your body. Much of the insides of your cells are replaced in hours to days. The proteins pumping your heart that lets you read this sentence - gone in sixty, ninety minutes. Not as fast as Nick Cage stealing a Ferrari, but really fast.
It's time to give rest a chance.
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Re: Can't sleep more than 3 hours

Postby Resty » Wed Jul 04, 2012 9:59 am

Not being able to sleep and finding the reason for it is ANYTHING but "simple".

Anyone that has struggled with sleep issues for any length of time is frustrated and has tried most of the "tried and true" methods of solving it. We know the logical train of thought, that our body NEEDS sleep to heal...to function..,to think...to be clear...to exist and survive another day. None of that changes the fact the we cant or dont sleep. No one "doesnt sleep" on purpose. No one enjoys the fact that they cant sleep or cant sleep long. It just isnt as simple as others make it out to be.

Ive literally spent thousands on my bed and bedroom to ensure absolute comfort and enticement towards a solid good night of sleep. Ive seen and been treated by every specialist out there. Ive installed air cleaners / purifiers...an air conditioner to keep it cold in the bedroom, Ive got black out curtains / drapes / blinds. Ive tried white noise, no noise, music, tv. Caffeine / no caffeine. No eating after a certain time in the evening. No sweets No carbs et al. Hot showers / cold showers / no shower before bed. Jammies / No jammies. Exercise / moderate exercise / no exercise. Herbal remedies et al. The one thing I havent tried and wont is meds.

I sleep less than 90 minutes some nights and almost never more than 3-4 consecutive hours in a night. Most people get more sleep in a night than I do in a week. But it is what it is.

What it isnt is SIMPLE!!!!

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