As had mentioned to you, it was my priv. to interview Dr. Crohn himself it was around 1955 and by chance he stated these exact words to a young girl, I believe an interne from Mt. Sinai, "You can never be too young or too thin or have too low a blood pressure." So I guess the middle part would escribe both of you, fortunate as you are.

I sure am.  I'll make sure to keep the weight off so as to stave off this horrible sleep apnea.  I'm much better off now.

It was thought that extra flab around the throat was an aggravating factor, but I think that has been discredited. Even people with chicken necks can have the problem. But having a lot of extra flesh on the abdomen can logically be a big problem, esp if you sleep on your back. I believe, even tho there is really no literature to back up my belief, that inflammation is the problem. Being obese has been shown to increase general inflammation in the body. I had suggested to my doctor that a small trial of administering cortisone type medicines or NSDAIDs, just for a few weeks, and the the test subjects being advised of the risks, and see if their sleep problems improve. In any event, being thin is THE way to go.

Obesity is a problem with many of us with SA, but speaking for myself, if the medical proffesionals had diagnosed me when my problems started  25 years ago, I would not have been 100 lbs overweight 2 years ago when starting cpap.  I've since lost 48 lbs, but the apnea is just as severe.  25 years of anti-convulsiants and anti-depressants along with undiagnosed sleep apnea puts a lot of weight on a person, and causes health problems that make the apnea harder to treat once you do get a diagnosis.  You younger people are mighty lucky to live in an age where doctors understand a bit more about sleep apnea, you can avoid a lot of pain and heartache . Virginia


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Resmed elite , 17, mirage quattro ff . 25 + years of untreated OSA

Sorry to hear that you're still struggling with this thing.  When I was heavy and the sleep apnea was at its worst, the dr's tried everything.  Cpap controlled my obstructive apnea only to cause central apneas.  Bipap had little effect, was noisy and uncomfortable, from the headgear to the the whining noise which my fiance described as sounding like a sick cow.  I was given theophylline as a respiratory stimulant and it felt as though my heart was ready to leap out of my throat. If I slept 3 hours a night I was lucky.  Finally the dr gave up on me and told me no more sleep studies or anything else for that matter.  It was only when I dropped some more weight that the apnea improved.  I was trying to push for an SV, but there was no way my insurance would go for it.  If only I would have known the weight loss would help, I would have lost it much sooner and avoided all that pain and torment.  I consider myself one of the luckier ones.  When thinner people have this, it seem to be the way they are put together in terms of anatomy.  I was told I have the same architecture in my throat that predisposes me to this problem, too, which totally sucks.  I just hope the weight loss continues to abate this hellish problem.  I know weight can creep on, so I have to be very careful.  I hope you are getting treatment that brings some relief to you.

Thank you, my apnea treatment is going pretty well, but  I still have problems with eds due to the anti-convulsiant I am weaning myself off of.  My ahi has been around 2 - 3 for the last 6 weeks, but I had to wean myself off of effexor to get that way.  I never had a problem using the mask, cpap is my friend, but I do sympathize with those who do .  It's the  ones with the problems with cpap who will be motivated enough to help discover new and better treatments. I hope you are able to keep the weight off, if you are healthy and manage to stay off of weight producing meds, you should be fine.  Virginia


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Resmed elite , 17, mirage quattro ff . 25 + years of untreated OSA

In my case, no structural problems w/the mouth, jaw or throat. EXCEPT, and this is my own theory: I NEVER had a sleep problem until a whiplash in early 1994. I was foolish and didn't let them take me to ER - nor did I go to a doctor until 3 weeks after the accident. Even at that late date xrays proved a hyperextension injury and small cervical bone chip. I HAVE been left w/carrying my head in a somewhat forward position and my shoulders rounded forward and it is the head forward position on the neck that is my theory for the cause of my sleep apnea. Plus the shoulders rounded forward doesn't help, making it more difficult for the "pulmonary muscles" in the chest to do their job.


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Some people are like Slinkies... Not really good for anything, but they still bring a smile to your face when you push them down a flight of stairs.
Resmed VPAP Auto. Humidaire 3i, Simplicity & Micro masks, ResScan 3.4, S8 ResLink, Embla oximeter.

Hope this tip helps you. Forget the "pulmonary muscles in [your] chest," and think only of your stomach. Breath from your stomach. Your stomach should rise and fall on each breath. In fact, do not try to breath IN at all. Just breat OUT and then relax,and let the machine breath in for you.

alas in my case am already thin, so there is "nowhere to go" On other hand, I read only 3% of obese people who lose weight will keep it of; and 0% of those who brag about it.


I think you were asked several times not to rock the boat and cause trouble.  I wish you would listen and stop trying to flame me when all I want to do is have a civil conversation here.  I'm sick of the snide a** comments. I'm trying to be nice, but I'm sick of you always trying to get these nasty digs in. No, I'm not bragging about my weight loss, although I've worked hard to lose the weight and I have every right in the world to feel good about myself and be proud.  Yes, I have bragging rights, if you will.  Please don't take that away from me, even if you find it impossible to be happy for anyone who might be feeling better besides yourself.  You should apologize for your rudeness or at least leave these comments out of here.

That's it. You two have a problem. And I've had enough of it. Have fun. I'm gone.


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Some people are like Slinkies... Not really good for anything, but they still bring a smile to your face when you push them down a flight of stairs.
Resmed VPAP Auto. Humidaire 3i, Simplicity & Micro masks, ResScan 3.4, S8 ResLink, Embla oximeter.

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