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mask is cutting my nose

Postby sleepy247 » Sat Feb 17, 2007 9:57 am

hi all-
i have an ultra mirage full face mask.. just wondering if anyone knows why it would cut/irritate the bridge of my nose. If i loosen it anymore I'll get leaks, and i know its not good for me if its too tight. i cant find the manual for it so i dont know how to properly fit it to my face. any one know how??

Also another question i have would be is if there is such a thing as breathing in too much humidity from your machine. thanks-
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Postby Bearded One » Sat Feb 17, 2007 10:51 am

If you got your mask from a DME you may want to have them fit you, it could even be the wrong size for you.

As long as it is not condensing, there is no way to breath too much humidity. The problems associated with too much humidity involve water condensing in the hose (rainout) or condensing in the mask or air outlet.
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Postby George/PA » Sat Feb 17, 2007 11:17 am

When I get a pressure sore on my nose, I use either DuoDerm (Don't know if you can get it without a prescription...a nurse gave me a square of it) or moleskin. I just put it between the bridge of my nose and the mask.

Even after 13 years of being a hosehead, I still occasionally get a sore spot on the bridge of my nose.
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Postby sleepy247 » Sat Feb 17, 2007 11:43 am

Yes, i did notice condesation in my mask and hose... would that be the cause of why im waking up with an awful headache?
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Postby Clay L » Sat Feb 17, 2007 12:26 pm

I had the same problem with my ultr Mirage Full face mask and found that I had to tip the forehead piece back farther. That fixed it. Also found that per the instructions the straps do not have to be real tight if everything is adjusted right.
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Postby Bearded One » Sat Feb 17, 2007 2:04 pm

No, I wouldn't think that high humidity would cause a headache. The only time that CPAP humidity condensation should cause any physical problems would be if you were to inhale the water and choke or drown. Would the high humidity of a steam room cause you any problems?
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Postby hhopper » Sat Feb 17, 2007 3:52 pm

The pressure on the top of a FF mask on the bridge of the nose is critical. If it's too tight at all you'll get a sore spot, or even worse, a sore. Adjust it very carefully so that you have just the right amount of pressure to keep it from leaking. Of course if it's the wrong size, you'll never get it to stop leaking. That's one good feature of the Mojo®; the nose pressure is adjusted very finely with a thumb-screw.

As far as headaches are concerned, I have found that if your headgear has a strap that goes around the back of your neck and it's too tight, it will give you a headache. I tend to have problems with this. I got a new Mojo® FF mask and the strap that goes around my neck is not very wide. I had problems with leaking around my cheeks, pulled the straps really tight to stop it and woke up with a dent in my neck and a bad headache.

The strap on my Flexfit™ 431 goes in the same place, but is wider and does a better job of distributing the load on my neck. I still like this mask the best of three: Hybrid®, Fisher & Paykel® Flexfit™ 431 and Mojo®.
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Postby Davidjp » Sat Feb 17, 2007 4:39 pm

hhopper wrote:As far as headaches are concerned, I have found that if your headgear has a strap that goes around the back of your neck and it's too tight, it will give you a headache. I tend to have problems with this. I got a new Mojo® FF mask and the strap that goes around my neck is not very wide. I had problems with leaking around my cheeks, pulled the straps really tight to stop it and woke up with a dent in my neck and a bad headache.

The strap on my Flexfit™ 431 goes in the same place, but is wider and does a better job of distributing the load on my neck. I still like this mask the best of three: Hybrid®, Fisher & Paykel® Flexfit™ 431 and Mojo®.
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I use the Mojo gel cushion FF mask and find that the mask should be worn with the back just above the top of the neck. I put the back of the mask on high and then use the little hole in the back piece to pull it down to just above the top of the neck, but still on the head. I also push the gel cushion in at the cheeks so that it does not rest on the cheek bones, but along the nose. You can also use the dents along the side to push in as this part of the mask is pliable. You might want to try fine tuning the strap pressure, also. It took me quite a lot of fine tuning of the straps to get it right--not too loose to cause leaks, and not too tight to cause pressure problems on the head.
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Postby Guest » Mon Feb 19, 2007 2:48 pm

I'm only a week old and have a huge sore on the bridge of my nose. They have suggested i try the "nasal pillows". Anyone have any advice or luck after having these similar symptoms?
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Postby Will » Mon Feb 19, 2007 3:54 pm

Your story is mine as well ... couldn't get multiple FF masks to stop from cutting into the bridge of my nose or leaking, it was like I had to choose one or the other. Consequently, I had a very hard time staying with it. After my last failure, with the Ultra Mirage, I gave up for two years. I bought the hybrid mask last fall and it has been great for me. It doesn't work for everyone (masks are a very individual experience), but as far as CPAP masks go I'm about as satisfied as I could be with the hybrid.
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Postby finely » Wed Feb 21, 2007 6:37 pm

In my sleep study, I had a nasal mask which left a nasty dent on the top of the bridge of my nose. It was there for the entire day. The sleep doctor therefore prescribed a Swift Mirage nasal pillow which is VERY comfotable compared to the mask. (Unless you are a mouth breather). Ask if you can try one. It fits at the entrance to the nosrils.
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Postby svenodyo » Wed Feb 21, 2007 10:03 pm

answer for the very first post, first, wipe the bridge of you're nose with alcohol, and than after washing the mask,apply alcohol around the whole rubber
diaphram that makes contact with you're face, this will stop the nose issue and stop the mask from leaking, helping you sleep better at night.
my pressure is at a constant 16, i have to wear a full face mask, had severe problems with leakage and nose gashes" people actually thought i had
a rifle scope wound. lol.... ps. good luck, it worked for me ;-) .
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Postby SnoopyWoodstockUS » Fri Feb 23, 2007 11:09 am

I had a respironics comfort gel mask and it was making the bridge of my nose sore also and irritating my forehead.

I swithched to nasal pillows and love them. Takes a day or two to get used to, but work great for me now.

I wish they would have tried me on them at my study but, all they tried on me were masks.
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