marks on face in morning

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marks on face in morning

Postby Mayree Mac » Fri Aug 11, 2006 4:36 pm

I am a new Cpapper (two nights now) with a nasal Mirage (ha!) mask and a chin strap. I'm doing OK w/ adjusting it and sleeping with no leaks (although like many people in the forum, I'm not seeing immediate magic escape from my daytime sleepiness), but in the morning I wake up w/ these marks on my already-aging face. They are on my forehead and along the sides of my nose. I think part of the problem is that I've been told not to use facial creams at night, so I just wash my face, and the silicone rubs against my sensitive skin. Is there any sort of safe moisturizer I can use to maybe prevent these marks? Or something to put on in the a.m. to make the marks go away? I read somewhere that there are moisturizers especially made for CPAP use. Can anyone advise? Thanks
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Postby lynn321 » Fri Aug 11, 2006 5:51 pm

sexual lubricant is recommended as it doesnt harm the mask. however avoid those that cause heat or extra sensivity to the skin
however many do use face cream even though it may slightly shorten the life of the mask

the final adjustment of the headgear is best mede when lying down in bed
CPAP benefits do take a while to become obvious

keep having positive thoughts !
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Postby Louise » Sat Aug 12, 2006 11:57 pm

the first thing I do in the morning before I eat breakfast or shower...is put some aloe vera on the marks and rub a bit. The aloe 'tightens' the face a bit..and by the time I have breakfast and a shower, the marks are much less noticeable.
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Postby MandoJohnny » Sun Aug 13, 2006 8:58 am

I have no financial interest or personal experience with it, but there is a product called "Pad A Cheek" that is just for that problem on CPAP masks. They are soft velour pads made to fit on various models of masks, including the Swift. On another apnea message board, multple people have reported good results with these things.
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Postby domc » Sun Aug 13, 2006 10:22 am

I've taped some bandage gauze on the top part that touches the forehead.
My marks usually disapear before I head off to work (1 hour).
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Postby Frances » Sun Aug 13, 2006 10:12 pm

All these suggestions are probably worth a try but I think that the top straps on your mask are too tight and the angle of the hinge over the nose needs adjusting. My husband had the same sort of problem although he uses a ff mask. He found that changing the angle of the hinge to make it flatter allowed the mask to sit better on his face without making the forehead strap too tight.

The sharper angle made the mask sit down on his nose but caused it to lift at the bottom unless he did it up quite tight. The shallower angle allowed the mask to sit more level as a whole and didn't require the same tightness. He discovered this because one night that hinge came apart because it hadn't been put together correctly. In putting it together again, he realized that the angle could be changed and did so as an experiment and found that it was an improvement.

At any rate, give it a try. If it isn't the answer, you can change it back.
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Postby Napster(the former) » Thu Dec 14, 2006 3:25 pm

I use a Swift Mirage mask, and no part of it touches my forehead. One strap runs over the top of my head, and the other is near the base of my skull.

I don't remember the brand chinstrap that I use, but it is red and has no adjustments. I wear the mask over the strap and the marks on the sides of my face are eliminated.

Most chain drug stores sell both "generic" (store brand), and a name brand lubricant, with the same base as K-Y Jelly, but with a more pleasant aroma that works well with the Swift pillows. This lube is specific for cpap users. A friend uses this same brand, that I cannot remember, on a full-face mask.
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Mayree with an update

Postby Mayree » Fri Dec 22, 2006 11:52 pm

Well, this is Mayree again w/ an update. When I posted I was two nights in. The third night was the charm--I woke up refreshed, stayed blissfully alert and awake all day, and CPAP has continued to work for me! So much so that the marks don't bother me as much. But also, I did try adjustments to the mask (now a Mirage FF due to mouth breathing), which helps. And I do moisturize my face, which also helps. Bottom line is marks are nothing compared to the energy I have thanks to my CPAP.
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Postby bdp522 » Sat Dec 23, 2006 9:41 am

I'm so glad to hear that you had a great night. One good night leads to another and another! Be sure those sore spots don't turn into open wounds. The areas usually toughen up over time, but you need to be careful in the beginning. Of course a really good nights sleep makes everything easier to deal with! Keep up the good work!
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Postby hhopper » Sat Dec 23, 2006 1:21 pm

Pad-a-cheeksâ„¢ will cushion the straps and help relieve strap marks.
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Postby Ridge Runner » Sat Dec 23, 2006 3:15 pm

Dear Mayree,

It sounds like the marks on your face are more due to chafing than the usual pressure. The pressure marks go away after 30 minutes or so, but I can see that chafing marks may be a greater issue.

If you use your regular night cream, it might shorten the life of the silcone seal on your mask, but it might give you the relief you need. Consider doing that.

I've used regular creams from time to time (not consistently), and I can't say they've shortened the life of the seal by more than a month (5 or 5.5 months vs 6). On you rown, you can buy the seal separately a little sooner than the usual 6 months allowed by many insurance companies, but it might not save you much money.

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Postby Snuffleupagus » Sun Dec 24, 2006 3:32 pm

I had this same problem in the beginning with the nasal mask, which otherwise is very comfortable. For the forehead, I purchased a wide cotton headband (from the hair care dept) and wear it around my head like a sweatband so that the forehead pads of my mask rest on top of it. For the cheek marks, I purchased two medium sized cotton hair scrunchies, cut through them at the seams & removed the elastic. This gives you a cotton tube that you can slip over the cheek pieces of the mask to cushion them. Both of those have worked very well and I wake with no marks. The bridge of my nose still gets a slight pressure mark, but a strip of moleskin over it each night has helped. Finally, my favorite facial lotion is Nutraplus Therapeutic Lotion by Healthpoint. It is a very light, non-greasy, and effective moistuizer that I am addicted to. It is hard to find on the shelf but can be specially ordered from your Walmart pharmacy, ond others I suppose. It's a bit pricey, about $19 for a 16 oz bottle, but it lasts a long time and is well worth it.
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