Leakage and watery eyes...

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Leakage and watery eyes...

Postby Christina » Fri Mar 31, 2006 9:58 pm

...I have had quite a bit of trouble with watery eyes. They literally water for the first 7 or 8 hours of the day. People have actually asked me if I am crying. I have the resmed S-8 elite so I can tell when there has been leakage and my eye problems seem to coincide with high numbers on nights when there is leakage. I am also using the Swift nasal pillow. Does anyone else have that problem? I find it surprising that if air is blowing on my eyes that it would be a big deal since they my eyes are closed. Your thoughts would be appreciated.

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Postby Brent Hutto » Fri Mar 31, 2006 10:10 pm

Any air at all getting into the corners of your eyes (tear ducts) is very irritating whether your eyes are closed or not. I also have an S8 and Swift, what sort of leakage rates are you seeing? The number on my LCD each ranges from 0.30L/sec to 0.92L/sec but I think those larger numbers are when my mouth leaks rather than the Swift.
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Thanks Brent,

Postby Christina » Fri Mar 31, 2006 10:59 pm

I'm reasonably sure the leakage is from the mask. The whistling wakes me up. I'm not sure if I have the straps too loose, but my number last night was .62. Two weeks ago they were .56 and .64 and my eyes were red and watery. I thought it might be my contact lenses but it didn't seem to make a difference if it was with my lenses or my glasses. The night before it was .20 and I didn't have a problem. I'm wearing medium pillows and thought I'd try large tonight to see if it makes a difference.

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Postby morcheller » Sat Apr 01, 2006 8:56 am

Christina,
I don't use the same mask but, I used to have a problem with air leaks hitting me in the eyes.
The solution surprised me. Simply loosen the mask straps. Then when you re-adjust them start with the top ones. Get the top comfortable and then tighten the bottom. Keep them both a little less than tight but the top should be slightly tighter than the bottom. That way if there is any leak it will blow down and not into your eyes.
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Postby Christina » Sat Apr 01, 2006 12:26 pm

Thanks Mike, I'll take you up on your suggestion. I mentioned that I was going to try the larger pillow and that was a disaster. So, at 2:00 AM I switched to the small. My DME told me that medium would be perfect for me, (as he was flying out the door), and there appeared to be a lot of support for going to the larger size on this site. But, to my surprise, my eyes feel fine and my numbers were great! So, tonight I will play around the straps. I wouldn't have thought the top one should be the tightest. Hey, I'm new at this - not giving up yet!

But thanks, Brent and Mike - you're the men! :-)

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Postby frankie » Sun Apr 09, 2006 12:34 am

Hi Christina,
I'm on round 2 of nasal pillows, after switching due to red watery eyes, then having similar problems with a Fisher & Paykel "407" mask and now a Sleepnet "IQ" mask (love the IQ mask, HATE the headgear---obviously designed by a crew-cut male.) I'm trying Round 2 now on the nasal pillows after learning from a respiratory therapist that I had reassembled it slightly wrongly (after washing), especially at the side seals, and also I had tilted the adjustable part of the centerpiece so that the air holes for exhaling pointed upward. (One reason I love the new "IQ" mask is that the air holes point down. But the headgear is treacherous & looks like something out of a 1950's B monster flick.) A respiratory therapist showed me how to put the nasal pillow mask together correctly, and suggested NOT removing the side seals (mine has blue rings with an arrow) to wash it. I tried the nasal pillows again last night & was amazed at how much better my eyes were today. There is a slight range of positions with the pillows that will work, so try getting to the end of that range that will make the air exhalation holes point the fatherest away from "up". Truth is, I wish the manugfacturer would redesign this so the exhaust holes point closer to downward. If I have funds left in my health care spending account near year's end, I'd be interested to try the relatively new "Comfort Curve" nasal mask, which does not have anything sticking in your nostrils.
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Hi Frankie,

Postby Christina » Sun Apr 09, 2006 8:10 pm

Hmmm....sounds interesting. Think I will check it out. I've been away this weekend but I noticed that there is a poll being taken on nasal pillows. You verbalized what I was thinking, that I should try to turn the export as far away from "up" as possible. Think I'll check it out. Someone with OSA should be developing these masks, don't you think? Who thinks up "IQ" mask? Sounds like I'd have to get up a half hour earlier to do my hair. Is that the IQ test? How many people can you sell it to that will go through that?

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Postby frankie » Mon Apr 10, 2006 1:25 am

Hi Christina,
I'm having to change vendors due to insurance change, but my prior vendor had employees using CPAP/APAP. They were great to talk to. I understand that the variety & sophistication of what is available has grown hugely over the last 2 years, and I expect it will now grow exponentially with doctors beginning to think about sleep apnea as a cause for fatigue, "fibromyalgia" etc. The IQ mask is exceptionally comfortable because of the state-of-theart mask materials used. Soft, and the mask sort of "custom molds" to your face. Makes me want to grab some designer and shake them and say, "How could you design this excellent mask and put it on this barbarian neopreme cage of a headgear?" Actually, I think I'll try to track down somebody at the manufacturer's website & communicate just that!

Anyway, night two of round 2 was excellent. Found I could shift the export farther downward than I thought. Still needed eyedrops this a.m. (I'm very allergic so use Patanol prescription eyedrops, but also use Similisan homeopathic allergy eye drops. Visine LR and Opcon-A work well to get rid of the "bleary eye" in an emergency, like for a meeting, but you can get "addicted" to those, similar to nasal decongestant sprays.) Howebver, I didn't need my usual 2nd round of Similisan later, or the "emergency" eye drops at all. Oh, I also remembered last night that the respiratory therapist who clued me in about other tips, mentioned that I had over-tightened the strap that went around the back of my head. This automatically puts pressure on the nostrils and may cause leaks.

Well, I'm on a mission too. Good luck.
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