new...nose hurts...help!

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new...nose hurts...help!

Postby seajoy » Wed Sep 17, 2008 8:49 am

Hi, fellow sleep apnea friends.

I was just diagnosed with sleep apnea in early August. I have had my cpap machine for about 3wks. The tip of my nose is killing me, and after about 2-4 hours of sleep, I throw the thing off my face every night. The tip of my nose has a red line on it that never goes away.

My mask is a newer type, I'm told. It's the ResMed Swift LT. Can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong? My pressure is set at 11.

This is my first post here, and I look forward to meeting you folks. Even with the short amount of sleep with the machine, I have tons more energy already. I also have Fibromyalgia, and depression/anxiety troubles.

Thanks for any help you can give me. I hope to help others too.
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Postby White Beard » Wed Sep 17, 2008 6:53 pm

Welcome to the forum seajoy, I can't be of much help to you as I don't use that type of mask, I am a Liberty and Hybrid mask fan, but it does sound like maybe you have it to tight against your nose and you may need to loosen it a bit. But to be honest with you that is just a guess on my part. I am sure somebody familiar with your mask will chime in soon and be able to solve your problem. Just try to keep using your CPAP. Also contact your DME and see what they can tell you, I am sure they should be able to readjust it properly for you or maybe have you try a different mask. Good Luck to You, and again Welcome to the forum
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Postby lynn543 » Wed Sep 17, 2008 7:06 pm

push mask high up on face and if theres a top adjustment part where it pushes against your forehead, adjust it carefully while lying in bed
put tape over nose where its sore
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Postby seajoy » Thu Sep 18, 2008 9:02 am

White Beard wrote:Welcome to the forum seajoy, I can't be of much help to you as I don't use that type of mask, I am a Liberty and Hybrid mask fan, but it does sound like maybe you have it to tight against your nose and you may need to loosen it a bit. But to be honest with you that is just a guess on my part. I am sure somebody familiar with your mask will chime in soon and be able to solve your problem. Just try to keep using your CPAP. Also contact your DME and see what they can tell you, I am sure they should be able to readjust it properly for you or maybe have you try a different mask. Good Luck to You, and again Welcome to the forum

Thanks for welcoming me to the forum, White Beard. I'm very new to this whole sleep apnea thing. It's good to know there are others who understand. :-)
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Postby seajoy » Thu Sep 18, 2008 9:05 am

lynn543 wrote:push mask high up on face and if theres a top adjustment part where it pushes against your forehead, adjust it carefully while lying in bed
put tape over nose where its sore

My mask is just for my nose. If I pushed it up farther, my nose would hurt more yet. I did try your tape on nose idea, but I couldn't get a good seal. I made it 3hrs last night, until the pain was so bad on my nose. I'm calling my resp guy today. They need to change something. Thanks for trying to help. :-)
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Postby White Beard » Thu Sep 18, 2008 10:20 am

seajoy keep us posted on how things turn out for you and how you progress. CPAP can be more than a bit difficult to get adjusted to. I can not even begin to tell you how many masks I have tried and even now the one that I use I have had to modify it a bit to make it work for me. So don't anticipate that you will have problems with CPAP, but also don't be surprised or over come if you do. You at least know where to come for help and support. We all know what it is like to have problems with XPAP, and most if not all of us are more than willing to help each other to get back into productive treatment. But if and when you have a problem with CPAP, what ever you do, just don't give up! Patients, persistence, perseverance, determination, and attitude, along with a big dose of humor, is esential to be successful on this CPAP adventure. Again Welcome seajoy, and Good Luck to You.
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Postby Gambian » Thu Sep 18, 2008 12:23 pm

I have also a problem with a sore nose, but my problem is with the bridge of the nose, which has an indentation caused by the mask, which is also sore and very red. I have tried so many masks that I think I may have exhausted the supply of them, currently using a Fisher & Paykel FlexiFit432 sleepstyle. As these masks cost so much it is difficult to make a judgement as to which one to try next. I have to have the full face mask I believe as I have the REsMed with Heater and Humidifier. Any suggestions as to which mask to try next would be helpful I am sure.
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Postby White Beard » Thu Sep 18, 2008 2:55 pm

Gambian I have the same problem with full face mask, I just can not tolerate the pain on the bridge of the nose, so I use the ResMed Liberty mask it is very much like the Hybrid mask which I also like and recommend. Anyway these two mask are kind of the best of both a nasal mask and a full face mask, it is like a full face mask in the fact it covers the mouth, but instead of covering the nose, it has two nasal pillows coming out of the top of it that fit into each nostril, so you can either breath out of your mouth or your nose. I like them both, I honestly think the Hybrid is more comfortable but I get lower AHI numbers on my machine with the Liberty. I have modified mine a little to keep the nasal pillows more snugly in the nose. There is a post with my mod, if your interested. Anyway these two mask I think are definitely worth checking out. Good Luck
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Postby Lucrenda » Thu Sep 18, 2008 3:43 pm

When I was having problems with my mask rubbing sores, besides changing the adjustment my DME suggested that I get moleskin to put on the sore at night. It doesn't affect the seal as badly. You can get moleskin in the pharmacy section of Walmart.
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Postby octogirl » Thu Sep 18, 2008 6:33 pm

I've had my new F&P Flexfit 432 for a few weeks now, and had an awful problem at first with the bridge of my nose being sore and red. I put a bit of moleskin on it (stuck to my skin) and that helped, but then I tried sticking the moleskin to the mask itself, just where it comes in contact with the bridge of my nose, being careful not to let it extend to the edge where it seals. It works fine. My nose is healing, I'm sleeping well, and I don't THINK there are any leaks up there. I'm pretty sure I'd notice a leak in that area, close to the eyes, where it can be a real problem.

My pressure is 8, and I've been CPAPing for almost two years. This is my third mask, and I think I'm going to stick with it until i hear of something I'm sure must be better. :-)
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Re: new...nose hurts...help!

Postby RemKeeper » Fri Sep 19, 2008 4:35 am

seajoy wrote:Hi, fellow sleep apnea friends.

I was just diagnosed with sleep apnea in early August. I have had my cpap machine for about 3wks. The tip of my nose is killing me, and after about 2-4 hours of sleep, I throw the thing off my face every night. The tip of my nose has a red line on it that never goes away.

My mask is a newer type, I'm told. It's the ResMed Swift LT. Can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong? My pressure is set at 11.

This is my first post here, and I look forward to meeting you folks. Even with the short amount of sleep with the machine, I have tons more energy already. I also have Fibromyalgia, and depression/anxiety troubles.

Thanks for any help you can give me. I hope to help others too.


Ok the swift LT is a nasal pillow mask. new by Resmed.

You might have it too tight, these masks and all masks for that matter are designed to fit and not leak (too much) with minimal amount of pressure on your face. Obviously if you have a FF mask with facial hair you will need to be a bit more tight, but with a nasal pillow mask its not the case.

I have noticed while using the swift LT on patients if you make it too tight it will (scrunch) up and kind of fold up if you will. Also if you dont already have it, try to get the light weight tube as the mask has very little head gear and could be pulled to the side by a heavy tube hanging off the side of the bed for example.

The nasal pillows should be just inside your nose and not (scrunch) up the rest of the bottom section of the seal.
Swift LT is a new mask and a nice one. Im actualy at work on lunch break and I have a patient using it right now :-D It is the pillows mask I use nearly every time. And no Im not a Resmed sales rep :-P
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Re: new...nose hurts...help!

Postby RemKeeper » Fri Sep 19, 2008 4:38 am

Woops it double posted.
Im a PSGT with OSA
Dx 4-15-08
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Postby seajoy » Fri Sep 19, 2008 8:04 am

Thanks for all the replies. I really appreciate it very much.

Last night I became very discouraged with my mask. I'm tired of having a headache from my nose hurting so much. I tried loosening it up, but it doesn't help. I have an appointment with my resp guy today at 1pm. I hope he can help. When he first fit me for this thing, he had it so tight I couldn't believe it. I don't have the utmost confidence in this fellow.

Thanks again for the nice welcome. I do have severe apnea, as I stop breathing 39 times per hour...so I need to get this thing working.
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Postby RemKeeper » Fri Sep 19, 2008 8:19 am

:-?

Some times nasal pillow masks are just not right for everyone. Some labs or DME's will not suggest a nasal pillow mask for anything above a pressure of 8-10 as well, it might be a pressure problem for you and that mask too.

If I can make some suggestions on other masks it would be Resmed Mirage micro or the Respironics comfort gel both are comfortable and adjustable masks.
If that is you are looking at nasal masks and not just pillows.
I usualy suggest to new patients to cpap to try on as many masks as they have avail. to them.
Good luck :-D

I prefer using the micro myself.
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Postby CrohnieToo » Fri Sep 19, 2008 10:16 am

Is it a matter of the tip of your nose feeling raw and severely chapped inside? Some Ayr Saline Gel or Spray can do wonders for that. I found the so much more direct air pressure into the nasal and sinus passages of the nasal pillows style masks too drying and irritating for me even tho I thought I would prefer the lighter weight and less mask.

After many mask tries and exchanges I've found the Respironics Simplicity simple nasal cushion (Petite size) works best for me, followed by the Resmed Mirage Micro (Small size) nasal cushion style RemKeeper mentioned as my second favorite w/the Resmed Mirage Quattro (XSmall size) for the times I need a full face mask. The Simplicity is the lightest and smallest of the three.
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