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Bearded One
Joined: 02 Oct 2006
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Location: Virginia
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I paid about $375 for it. I seriously doubt that insurance would pay for it.
This battery is small, relatively light, and can be carried onto airplanes. I also use it instead of a power brick when I use my auto M.
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| Sat May 17, 2008 12:45 pm |
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virginia57
Joined: 26 Mar 2007
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Well, I won't be getting that one either. I'll just settle for something to get me through a few hours. If the power is gone longer than that , I'll just go also. Dad lost his power for 5 hours the other day during a storm, so I really need something for when I visit. Virginia
_________________ Resmed elite , 17, mirage quattro ff . 25 + years of untreated OSA
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| Sat May 17, 2008 2:39 pm |
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Bearded One
Joined: 02 Oct 2006
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Location: Virginia
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I live in northern Virginia and 4 to 12 hour outages are pretty common. We had a 3 day power outage a few years ago after a hurricane came inland. We were lucky, parts of nearby Maryland were out of power for over a week. My lithium ion battery is a very elegant solution for the 4 to 12 hour outages.
I have an RV battery that will work great for the 3 day outages (it should last a week). The charger I have for the RV battery is only 4 amps, it is designed to keep a battery maintained, but it won't will be very useful to charge the battery if it is significantly discharged.
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| Sat May 17, 2008 3:03 pm |
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spondee
Joined: 27 Apr 2008
Posts: 35
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K. u all are confusing me (am new to this anyway!).
With full face mask flexfit 431
using RemStar Pro M CPAP w/ heated humidifier
AND being slightly on the hysterical personality type  and definitely NOT tech oriented. AND living on a very low (867 mo) income...
I will feel (and sleep) much better w/a battery back up! But can't find online any that u are speaking of...except for the one that costs $400.xx
Are there companies/generics besides APC? (and why would I need 6 -8 outlets? my puter and cpap are not in same room)
Suggestions, ideas, links?
_________________ Oldster
wheel chair person
4 x cancer survivor
If in doubt, take a nap!
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Started CPAP 5.2.08
Full face Flexfit 431
RemStar Pro M w/heated humidifier
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| Sun May 18, 2008 6:03 pm |
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Bearded One
Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Posts: 2092
Location: Virginia
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There are several companies that make UPS's besides APC, one of them is Belkin. The number of outlets does not matter. A standard UPS will not run your CPAP very long; and don't even bother plugging you humidifier into the UPS.
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| Sun May 18, 2008 7:30 pm |
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BGSMSHR
Joined: 28 Jun 2007
Posts: 126
Location: Naplis, Merlin, On the bay
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A standard $39 UPS will work, but it will also most likely beep incessantly while the power is out.
_________________ RemStar Pro M-Series with C-Flex jamming 10 cm H20 down my piehole  And finally getting a good night's sleep...every night!!!!
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| Sun May 18, 2008 8:13 pm |
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spondee
Joined: 27 Apr 2008
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Bearded One wrote:There are several companies that make UPS's besides APC, one of them is Belkin. The number of outlets does not matter. A standard UPS will not run your CPAP very long; and don't even bother plugging you humidifier into the UPS.
So what will???
_________________ Oldster
wheel chair person
4 x cancer survivor
If in doubt, take a nap!
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Started CPAP 5.2.08
Full face Flexfit 431
RemStar Pro M w/heated humidifier
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| Sun May 18, 2008 10:27 pm |
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Pungo
Joined: 25 Apr 2008
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UPS is a great idea!
A note about masks: I asked the CPAP retailer about the risks of a power outage, and he said that with the masks they sell, all of them have the exhalation port that would prevent suffocation. However, he cautioned me that some masks out there don't have the port as part of the mask, and it is possible, in theory, to put together a unit that would not have an exhalation port. That would be bad. :<
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| Sun May 18, 2008 11:05 pm |
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spondee
Joined: 27 Apr 2008
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I found this at Office Depot: http://www.officedepot.com/a/products/986336/ES-650VA-Battery-Backup-BE650G-Watt/
Would this keep my maching operating for hours during a black out? What about the Humidifier???
I think the price is good as it includes free delivery...
_________________ Oldster
wheel chair person
4 x cancer survivor
If in doubt, take a nap!
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Started CPAP 5.2.08
Full face Flexfit 431
RemStar Pro M w/heated humidifier
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| Sun May 18, 2008 11:52 pm |
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Bearded One
Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Posts: 2092
Location: Virginia
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These home UPS's are designed to keep a system operating long enough to close files and shut everything down gracefully; they are not designed to operate more than several minutes.
My guess that that it may power a CPAP and humidifier up to about a half hour. It may may power a CPAP by itself for an hour or maybe up to an hour and a half.
There is a runtime chart for the APC BE650G UPS at http://apc.com/products/runtime_for_extendedruntime.cfm?upsfamily=21 that will help estimate how long that UPS will operate. A CPAP and humidifier may draw an average of about 100 watts.
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| Mon May 19, 2008 8:45 am |
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BarryKaraoke
Joined: 30 Dec 2007
Posts: 614
Location: Patterson, NY
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Pungo wrote:he said that with the masks they sell, all of them have the exhalation port that would prevent suffocation. However, he cautioned me that some masks out there don't have the port as part of the mask, and it is possible, in theory, to put together a unit that would not have an exhalation port.
99% have an anti-asphyxiation port. If you are concerned, this afternoon put on your mask with your unit powered off...and test it out.
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| Mon May 19, 2008 10:09 am |
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spondee
Joined: 27 Apr 2008
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From the FlexFit documentation:
...However, when the CPAP/BI machine is not operating, enough fresh air will not be provided through the mask, and exhaled air may be rebreathed. Rebreathing of exhaled air for longer than several minutes can in some circumstances, lead to suffocation.
This is enough for ME to want the security of some type of power back up!
(Still trying to decide what would work best that is in my price range!)
_________________ Oldster
wheel chair person
4 x cancer survivor
If in doubt, take a nap!
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Started CPAP 5.2.08
Full face Flexfit 431
RemStar Pro M w/heated humidifier
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| Wed May 21, 2008 2:06 pm |
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BarryKaraoke
Joined: 30 Dec 2007
Posts: 614
Location: Patterson, NY
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spondee wrote:This is enough for ME to want the security of some type of power back up!
Much like driving an old car with no seat belts, it would be enough for ME to switch to a modern mask with modern safety features.  Seriously though, I doubt that if the power goes off, you would continue to sleep. When the air stops, you will wake up...Fast! And remove your mask.
To answer your actual question...it's all about time. The entry level UPS units are designed to give a computer enough battery time so you can shut them down properly, not so you can continue to use them during an outage. The UPS manufactures have calculators on their websites that will give you approximate run-time based on wattage.
Basically...the larger and more expensive the unit, the longer the runtime. Just like they say..."Time is Money"! If you really want to go nuts a standby generator would let you sleep indefinitely, keep your food frozen and home heated!
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| Wed May 21, 2008 3:31 pm |
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spondee
Joined: 27 Apr 2008
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BarryKaraoke wrote:spondee wrote:This is enough for ME to want the security of some type of power back up!
If you really want to go nuts a standby generator would let you sleep indefinitely, keep your food frozen and home heated!
At this point in time, that might not be such a crazy idea. My electric wheelchair needs to be charged regularly, my hospital bed is electric (It has manual controls, but they are really difficult), and now the CPAP.
hmmm, perhaps I'll call my utility company...
_________________ Oldster
wheel chair person
4 x cancer survivor
If in doubt, take a nap!
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Started CPAP 5.2.08
Full face Flexfit 431
RemStar Pro M w/heated humidifier
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| Wed May 21, 2008 3:51 pm |
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BarryKaraoke
Joined: 30 Dec 2007
Posts: 614
Location: Patterson, NY
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spondee wrote:hmmm, perhaps I'll call my utility company...
You also might ask them if you could get put on the "fix me first" list for power outages. I don't remember what it is called, but I know they have such a list so that those with medical need can get back "up & running". It might only be for lifesaving equipment though...(iron lungs, respirators, etc).
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