Can severe allergies cause Sleep Apnea

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Can severe allergies cause Sleep Apnea

Postby Ar7 » Fri Apr 04, 2008 11:23 pm

Hi. I have OSA severe on back, mild on side. I have am thin, young (I'm 28, but have had it since I was much younger) with a thin neck. However I have always suffered from year long chronic allergies. On my allergy test I scored on the highest (most severe) level for 7 allergins, and had 3 others that weren't as severe. Despite taking Zyrtec daily (the antihistamine which helps the most for me) and Nasacort AQ daily (the cortisteroid that helps the most) I still can't breathe clearly though these help a lot certainly. Anyhow I am always congested, and I heard that interferes with use of the CPAP.
Anyways besides that I've read various sources saying allergies can narrow your airways, can give you more apnea episodes, and perhaps even cause sleep apnea. I was wondering if anyone knew more about this.
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Postby PaulaO » Fri Apr 04, 2008 11:50 pm

It sounds as if your allergies is confined to nasal congestion rather than throat constriction. If this is the case, then no, your allergies wouldn't cause sleep apnea. SA is when the muscles of the throat collapse and block the airway. Narrowing of the throat would make it easier for the muscles to close.

It also sounds as if you'd be better off with a full face mask vs one that only covers your nose. That way, when you are congested, you can open your mouth and breathe that way.
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Postby Ar7 » Sat Apr 05, 2008 7:45 pm

Well even breathing through my mouth is difficult, though better than breathing through my nose. My allergies cause beautiful bright red itchy rashes all over the body as well, and the occasional sneeze. I do wish there was a way to find out how much effect my allergies are having on my sleep apnea, fatigue, headache, cognitive functioning, etc. Damn AMA! Put some more funding into sleep! Food, water, air, and sleep these are the things we need to survive!
Still I guess the full face mask may be worth a shot I guess. Though without insurance (well a !@#! one with 5,000 dollar deductible) it's not going to be easy to get one of those.
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Postby Vicki » Sat Apr 05, 2008 7:58 pm

Ar7,

My Fisher and Paykel Flexifet 431 FF mask is $129 online so that is what you are looking at. Once you have the frame, you can just replace the silicone seal for $47.50.

My drug mix is Zyrtec and Naxonex. I think allergies contribute a lot to feeling like garbage. I know my apnea is well compensated, but when my allergies are acting up, I feel icky and worn out like I've had the flu.

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Postby PaulaO » Sat Apr 05, 2008 8:05 pm

There's a lot of people here who like the Hybrid and the Liberty. They have the nasal pillows then have the section that cover the mouth. They look a interesting.

I've got horrible allergies, too, but mine is mostly in my nose and sinuses. Unfortunately, I'd just gotten a mask so I have to wait a while before ins. will pay for another one. I'll be getting either the Hybrid or the Liberty. The DME I use doesn't carry the Hybrid (says they get a lot of customer complaints) but do carry the Liberty (says folks love them).

I've found excellent help with the nose by using the saline washes. I use Ayr primarily although the current saline powder is by Neill (I use the Ayr bottle still). I also use the Ayr pre-made saline spray and just got the gel kind to try when my nose is sore. Funny thing is, both of them say "good to use for:..." and say "CPAP" as one of the reasons.

Oh, a lot of my symptoms went away or decreased after I changed out my hose. There must've been something growing up in there. Ew. I changed out everything, including the humidifier's water bin. I still am stuffed up and still sneeze a lot but it is much less than before.
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Re: Can severe allergies cause Sleep Apnea

Postby itsthetooth » Fri Mar 08, 2013 3:27 pm

My whole ordeal started out the same way. I had a box fan aimed directly at me at night cause the room was 85 degrees. It caused rhinitis which started to block my breathing at night. Of course I instantly figured out it was the fan, and moved the fan, and had my doctor prescribe antihistamines which fixed it. I also cleaned my fan. Months later in the winter time, I started to have some other type of breathing problems and realized that it was actually alergy to dairy products, so I cut that out of my diet and the problems seemed to go away. Recently I have woken up twice with restricted breathing, and I'm thinking that some of the food I ate had dairy in it.

It could also be that I'm dealing with several issues causing this confusion. With the rhinitis, it was full bore choking in my sleep, in fact my spouse had to wake me up to tell me I was jerking my body in bed and not breating. The other problems I would have is I would sleep for anywhere from about 2 to 4 hours and end up with a blockage where I couldn't breath out, I could breath in, but not out, untill I woke up and opened my mouth, took a swallow and could sleep for a few more hours.

The odd part that was confusing the hell out of me was that these episodes weren't consistant, sometimes I could get a good nights sleep with no problem. Even odder is that these choking fits would sometimes happen durring the day when I'm out and about doing things. After seeing a specialist, he stuck a camera down my nose and said that my soft pallet looks normal, my tonsils are small to normal, and my tongue looks normal, left me guessing, what the hell is it then. Food alergies. I'm having anaphylaxis from dairy. The reason I targeted dairy is because I remember having copius amounts of it just before these episodes, and I already have a lactose problem.

Anyhow, I noticed that your post was from some years ago and I hope you still check your messages because I found something out about YOUR situation that might be your best and only option for help.

Weeks ago watching TV, a program came on about a guy that suffered from terrible alergies, antihistamines would help just a little and he was overwhelmed and to a breaking point. With those types of alergies, you can consider the treatment of the fluke worm. This is where someone infects themself with the fluke worm because after they get set up in your body, they release a generous amount of antihistamines. You just have to get checked periodically to make sure that the worms are not out of control.

The program explained this guy going to africa to infect himself by walking through human waste to infect himself. Now he has a website and sells his own poo in the states so that people can infect themself to get rid of this alergy problem. I know it sounds horrible to think of infecting yourself with a worm, but depending on how bad your alergies are, it could be worth it.

The only other thing you can do is clean and dust the heck out of your bedroom and hope that cures it.
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Re: Can severe allergies cause Sleep Apnea

Postby Vicki » Sat Mar 09, 2013 1:56 am

I think you could probably find legitimate breeders of fluke worms (for research and such) rather than risking infecting yourself with something horrible from someone's poo. But it is certainly an interesting treatment and thought provoking for someone like me whose has had lifetime allergies!

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