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Ozone Rambler wrote:
Ramboaus health care is one issue. The War on Terrorism is another issue. America must fight or it will fall to the Muslim religous fanatics within 100 years of leaving the middle east. The barbarians are at the gate and most American do not realize this. America has freedoms and believes in the individual to do pretty much what they want within legal limits. The Muslim religon does not reconginze freedoms or individual rights. Take a look at the legal system, if that is what you want to call it, in Iran if you think I'm kidding on this. So with that said here is something for you to think about.

"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." ~ John Stuart Mill


I couldn't disagree more.

I'm not Christian, either, but I do know that Christianity has weathered attacks before, and will again.
America has weathered attacks before, and will again.

While not exactly a tempest in a teapot, those who believe they can fundamentally change the American way of life or worship are tilting at windmills.
As are those misguided souls who believe we can change Islamic views, or even abate the effect of Islamic fundamentalism.

We cannot possibly win any "War on Terror". What does winning it really mean? Total extermination of Islam? That, of course, is the only way to stop fundamentalist extremists. As long as Islam exists, terror attacks will happen. The same can be said of Christianity and Judaism. There is a basic theological tenet that "because you don't believe as I do, you are inferior, and must conform to my beliefs". This is common to all of those three theologies.

Attacks on American (and other non-Islamic, or non-Christian, or non-Judaic) societies will continue to happen, and nothing -- absolutely nothing -- short of total annihilation of those belief systems will make the attacks stop.

That approach is, of course, abhorrent and will not happen short of Armageddon.
We cannot, and must not, attempt to force our own belief systems on others... we must lead by example.

The cost of these wars in blood and dollars is unacceptable. We could have provided every single person in the U.S. with quality health care for the money that has already been spent in the current fruitless campaign.


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The cost of these wars in blood and dollars is unacceptable. We could have provided every single person in the U.S. with quality health care for the money that has already been spent in the current fruitless campaign.


This is precisely what I meant by Charity begins at Home. America shold look after Americans first before becoming the Guardian of the world. The rest of the world looked upto USA for everything until Bush Junior came and screwed it all up. Now in 2007 every one is suspicious of each and every move made by USA not understanding the US foreign policies.

Next week president Bush is arriving in Sydney for the APEC summit. A security fence similar to the Berlin wall has been built around the venue. We city dwellers are going to live in fear for two weeks.
How did this come about ? This is the result of the Fight on terrorism annd india has now become a soft target for siding with USA and signing the nuclear deal.

Nuclear anything should be banned. What is not good for Americans is not good for Indians as well. we do not require nuclear power sttations costing billions of dollars when half the popuation is below poverty levels and without basic education and health care.

The world needs peace and not missiles and jet fighters to protect the most precious possession in this world of ours "Life"


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